(FUCK THE) FDA bans flavored cigarettes
Up in smoke: FDA bans flavored cigarettes : Consumer Reports on Safety.
Well, the fascists have banned my cigarettes. How do these assholes get away with this crazy banning bullshit?! I’m punished because younger people like flavored cigarettes more than the regular licorice flavored dreck. Yeah, I like them better than the regular butts, too, and I started smoking Marlboros when I was in Israel (and Time cigarettes and Rothschild cigarettes). When I found out about vanilla flavored cigarettes, I was very happy. This was about 3-4 years ago, about 15 years after I started smoking. Now, I’m forced to either go back to those shitty licorice cigarettes (yes, normal cigs are flavored with licorice, the “candy” of the time when they started to be mass produced), or I’ll have to find a dealer. It’s time to go commando, all because some do-gooder law makers think they’re doing it “for the chiiiiiiiildren.”
Fuck Obama, Fuck Congress, Fuck the bureacrats, you’ve just made me angrier… and a criminal.
Wouldn’t want to stand between you and candy.
Candy I can do without. However, don’t stand between me and my home made ice cream. :>
I wouldn’t want to have someone stand between me and that either. Why did you say that thing about a cookie?
You were angry, so I came up with a non sequitur that sounded funny.
Yeah. I’m ready to go militant as well. This is fucking bullshit. I loved cloves, and now we’ve got to risk importing them from Indonesia, and seeing if customs seizes them or not. I just spent a good $110 on 4 cartons, and if customs seizes my clove cigarettes, I’m punching a fucking baby.
Havoc,
ROFL
I like my Dreams Vanilla (French Blend) cigarettes, and now I can’t find the damn things anywhere. When my stash runs out, I’m gonna be punting small animals for stress relief.
Wondering about becoming a DIY MASTAH and making my own.
Hey if you can find where i can get them please let me know…i am just as pissed off as you are.
They have come out with a different version of them but they are more like a cigar…i don’t like them…please keep me posted….i am defffinitly on your side on this
I have even started looking for them in bellgium an other country’s and they are all sold out.
Melissa
Hey Melissa,
Sorry for not responding sooner, but I’ve been looking for an answer to our problems, too. Unfortunately, I can’t find anyone selling my favored Vanilla (French Blend) Dreams cigarettes. I did see some Cherry (Jubilee Blend) Dreams cigarettes still available at http://allofourbutts.com, but I want the vanilla.
I may have to try a flavoring, so I looked into the Tasty Puff additives. I’ll buy some soon and review them here.
http://tastypuff.com/
If I find a way to get actual Dreams cigarettes, I’ll tell y’all. *God Damned FDA, Congress, Obama, et al*
This pisses me off too. I get that it is more attractive to teens, but then ban all f cigs cause if they can’t get these then they will get whatever they can. I am ptfo. What is this? What is our country coming too? Why don’t you just ban alcohol too, you have to be 18 to buy smokes so what is the point. I think OBAMA used to smoke dreams and since he quite this is why he banned them. I think its a f joke. Let me know if you find them online. I hate regular smokes… I love my vanillas! MFAMFJNA ewww I am PO’d about this sh**
Oh and by the way thank you for the website to the jubilee’s they are a substitue to my vanillas! ugh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
jojo,
You’re welcome for the link, and stay pissed. Let your congress critters know that this sucks and that they lose your vote for not only banning your favorite flavored cigs, but for raising taxes on your cigs, too. No taxes for those who earn less than $250,000/yr, ey? Bullshit.
US Senate
US Congress
I just smoked the last cigarette from my stash of Dreams French Blend! I have been smoking this kind for 9 years! I still can’t believe they have taken the right of choice from me! I am as PO as you, folks. Using the same justification why don’t the ban Fast Food kid’s meals as a poor choice of diet?
If anybody finds a way to purchase our favorite brand please post it as soon as possible. I have been searching and promise to do the same.
I SMOKED WHAT EVER BUTS WERE IN MY MOTHERS ASH TRAY WHEN I STARTED SMOKING AND NOT BECAUSE THEY WERE FLAVORED I SMOKED FOR 10 YEARS BEFORE I SMOKED MY FIRST FLAVORED AS FOR THE VANILLA DREAMS I FINISHED OFF MY LAST BOX FROM MY STASH ALSO BUT THE LOCAL TOBACCO STORE IS SELLING FILTER CIGAR MADE BY SWEET DREAMS THEY COME 12 TO A PACK FOR AROUND 4.00 BUT THEY JUST ARE NOT THEY QUITE THE SAME MAYBE ITS ALL IN MY HEAD I COMPLETELY AGREE WITH EVERYONE THIS IS NOT RIGHT NOTHING ABOUT IT IS JUSTIFIABLE I DON’T KNOW WHERE THEY GET OFF MAKING THESE KIND OF DECISIONS LIKE THERE IS NOTHING MORE IMPORTANT FOR THIS COUNTRY TO WORRY ABOUT
Yeah, my stash is now gone, too. I tried the Tasty Puff… nah, not working. I’ve now gone to meth lab tactics and am going to try to roll my own. If that’s acceptable, I’ll tell y’all, but I can’t find vanilla flavored tubes, so that’s a big drawback.
Victoria, thanks for posting your thoughts. MISTY, YOU’RE RIGHT, KIDS WILL SMOKE REGARDLESS OF FLAVORINGS. THEY DID BEFORE, AND THEY WILL AGAIN.
And that’s why I am so pissed about this. These people have to be truly retarded to think infringing on my rights is perfectly fine as long as it’s for “the chiiiillllllldrennnnnnnnnnn.”
This is a load of bull and we all need to start getting together to fight this FDA crap. They are banning everything useful. I just had my favorite supplements banned even though the three universities they hired to analyze it found that they shouldn’t be banned and FDA just banned them anyways. Then DEA scheduled them. Now all my investment, learning about the chemistry, learning about my body and how it functions chemically and how it metabolizes chemicals, all wasted. All the hardwork all wasted because I cannot keep my physique up without the supplementation.
Anyways, what about ALCOHOL? Far more dangerous, far more intoxicating, and FAR MORE APPEALING TO KIDS WITH THEIR FLAVORS. Think about this, Mike’s Hard Lemonade? Taste like SUGAR AND LEMONS. Teenage girls suck em down like kool aid. Smirnoff has many, many flavored alcoholic beverages. These are so much more appealing to kids and teens than some mildly flavored cigarettes! Plus you can’t buy them under 18, so whats the deal!? This is nothing more than them flexing their muscle, and they will do it again and again and again, banning one thing after another until we band together under the common cause and fight back. They want to take away soda now, the FDA actually will start regulating soda come Jan. 1st, 2010! They want to make it illegal to have soda under the age of 18. No joke! This is getting out of hand, and I’m sick of big brother, NWO and the elitists creating a slave nation out of us.
Better ban that alcohol too, under their own assessment of what is dangerous for kids, under the same principle it should be banned. If not then they are hypocrites and liars.
yeahh im pretty pissed i only smoke the dreamz (french blend) and im over 18 and because of the FDA i have to suffer because little kids want to smoke ? fuck that, thats unfair to everyone over 18 and who cares if people under 18 get a hold of them ? ITS GOING TO FUCKING HAPPEN ANYWAYS.
Yup, it’s just feel-good legislation that hurts more people than it may help. I didn’t start smoking with flavored cigarettes, I smoked regular Marlboros, but now I prefer the Dreams cigarettes. And now I can’t get them. Bastards.
Pissed off as well.
Obama is a fascist hypocrite and anyone who smokes who voted for the bastard or who buys Philip Morris ought be exiled from enjoying the sweet taste of tobacco.
Can’t find Sweet Dreams anywhere, not even online. Really fucked up. I’m no fan of Bush either but at least he didn’t deprive the American public from our right to choose if, when and what we would like to smoke.
Luke, remember it wasn’t just Obama, it was Congress that made the law. Henry Waxman, Democrat out of California, was the douche who put the bill up (H.R. 1256: Family Smoking Prevention and Tobacco Control Act) which allowed the FDA to ban certain flavored cigarettes.
http://www.opencongress.org/bill/111-h1256/show
They’re all a bunch of flaming assholes for not understanding that they have no business blocking these products for sale. This crony capitalism (as John Stossel calls it) is infuriating, where big tobacco companies get to keep menthol cigs because they give enough money to politicians.
its so stupid. when i found out they were banning them i bought like 10 cartons. and now i cant find them online or anything. i like the cherry ones. they do still sell the pink ones and the rainbow. so y not the flavored. what do they not think a 15 yr old girl will want to smoke a hot pink ciggerette? why can they sell pinks but not the flavored. they arnt even that flavored to begin with! they are just better! GRRR is all i have to say
Don’t give them any ideas, they’ll ban anything they can as long as it gets them brownie points to get re-elected.
I had a mountain of vanilla cigs, but they’re almost all gone now. I kept the last 5-pack carton for special occasions, and I only have 4 packs left. Bastards and their moronic moralizing.
I completely oppose the bill that bans flavored cigs! What about banning menthol or peppermint cigs? Why arent they considered “flavored?” CUZ THEY ARE MADE IN AMERICA???!!!!!
Its a sad law considering marijuana IS legal but flavored cigs are not!
I LOVE DREAMS FRENCH VANILLA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (and I’m 35 – NOT an underaged teen)
Melanie,
I don’t smoke cannabis, but I think it should be legal to smoke it. And yes, there was some real crony capitalism going on with the flavored cigarette ban.
When a major corporation gets on board with legislation that would seem to hurt them, you know some sweetheart backroom deals have occurred that will favor the large corporation. If Altria says a cigarette ban is all good, then you know they’re getting money somewhere: now people HAVE to buy their cigarettes, and can’t have the Belgium-based Sweet Dreams cigarettes. Altria’s competition was killed with the flavored cigarette ban, so of course they liked it. They also get the exception for menthol cigs, so there’s no downside for them.
I have tried rolling my own,and nothing is the same as the Sweet dreams french blend. I have spent hours searcing the internet and finally found out the they are no longer being manufactured in Belgium at all! I am so PO! If anyone comes up with a decent recipe to make your own please share it!
Patti, the closest I got was using a cigarette machine with empty cigarette tubes filled with regular tobacco and pipe tobacco mixed together. You have to cut down the pipe tobacco so it is the same size as — or smaller than — the cigarette tobacco, otherwise the “coal” will burn unevenly and fall off the cigarette; which is both annoying and dangerous.
This is still a major pain in the ass, though.
WTF… SO PIST WHEN I WENT TO THE STORE TO BUY A JUBILEE PACK.. THEN THE BLOODY CASHIER TELLS ME THEY DON’T SELL IT NO MORE.. damn!! SERIOUS??? let me know as well when someone finds them..
thanks..
i also have 4 packs left and am saving them for special ocassions. But i just can’t seem to come to grips with the fact that these are it. I started smoking some realy nice Canadian vanilla cigarettes but are very expensive almost 100 bucks w/shipping to LA. But worth it. I just can’t go back to marlboros! please respond if anyone finds them!! Thanks!
EVE, I know it sucks, and you can’t even mail order them because the US was pressuring tobacco companies around the world not to ship flavored cigs to the US. Crazy.
RJ Flores, if you have a link to the Canadian cigarettes, that would be great. We only have a limited time to order tobacco by mail, since the nannies in Congress passed the PACT act on March 11th, 2010 ( http://www.indiancountrytoday.com/national/northeast/87793387.html ).
H.R.1676 – Prevent All Cigarette Trafficking Act of 2009
To prevent tobacco smuggling, to ensure the collection of all tobacco taxes, and for other purposes.
DR you can try any tobacco shop in Canada who might carry the cigs I mentioned. I have a friend that ships them to me out of Canada. I would be willing to HELP you in any way in respect to your deadline’s.
RJ, I can’t find them on the internet searching for “canada vanilla cigarettes”; maybe your friend is sending you flavored mini cigars, or cigarillos?
Cigarillos! Taste is very close to cigarette,,,not bold like a typicall cigarillo. They are very good substitute for the dreams.
I have tried the cigarillos, and they can have a good taste (lots of different kinds, I like the maple, too), but I found that they’re pretty heavy for me. The Dreams were light and sweet… so good.
We can still order cigarillos since they’re not considered cigarettes, but I’m sure the weasels in Congress will get around to them eventually.
Thanks for the help, Rene!
I counldn’t say it any better, pigs, they are, so I have to suffer more as an adult because I have good taste!!!
d,
Exactly. We suffer as adults because some kids break the law. Instead of enforcing the law, they ban the cigarettes and leave adults without choice.
I really, really, really miss the chocolate dreams. For a while, I was able to find the menthol dreams, which were more like spearmint. Now I can’t find those either.
I cannot for the life of me find out who the manufacturer is. I just know they are in Belgium. Would a trip there be worth it just to smoke them again? Definitely. Does anyone know how to contact the manufacturer?
Nate,
I doubt you can get them unless you go to Belgium, if they still even make them. Searching for Dreams online brings up site after site of discontinued products. For all I know, they went out of business.
such bullshit they are just seeing how far they can push people and they just decided to start with something big
This has nothing to do with Democrats – or at least not specifically Democrats. Both major parties are equally beholden to their masters: corporations. The corporations, in turn, serve a tiny group of wealthy, influential individuals. All the political games serve one end: to further enrich this group (and its foot soldiers) at the expense of the world's working people … whether they work for wages or at their own businesses.
The only way to regain control of our government is to (1) ban corporate personhood, which was snuck in on us at the end of the Civil War (2) eliminate all private campaign financing (3) strike down every law that makes it hard for third party candidates to get on the ballot. Otherwise the long-term plan to create a modern feudal system under a theocratic, fascist (look up the real definition) government will soon succeed, and once it does, it may prevail for centuries.
Meanwhile, I'm not sure why some enterprising European isn't making a ton of money exporting Dreams to us for our personal use (which is still legal) and to people in the rest of the world whose local suppliers cannot sell enough to warrant stocking them. We walk around under the illusion that, via the internet, we can buy any legal product available anywhere in the world. We pretend the web offers vast potential to small businesses, that it's practically custom-made for individual-to-individual transactions. Meanwhile, we cannot buy Dreams for our personal use because no Big Money outfit is interested in selling them to us. Like I said, corporations rule the world.
I'm not sure why someone doesn't just make flavored cigarettes and not label them as flavored. If they run into legal trouble, they can threaten to challenge the law and the big cigarette makers will have to join them – since, as other readers have pointed out, all cigarettes are flavored. Almost all cigarettes have licorice [yuck] in them; that's where a good chunk of the world's licorice goes. And Camels have chocolate added, along with other flavors.
Furthermore, the law doesn't exempt other rolled tobacco products from this ban, so I'm not sure how flavored cigars, mini-cigars, and micro-cigars continue to be sold.
DCdreamslover,
I don't subscribe to the Socialistic shibboleth of corporations ruling and ruining everything. I place responsibility for laws passed on those who pass the laws, and that's on Congress and the President. Politicians usually have a certain skill set, and it's glad-handing and management, not deep thought. They do what they do to get campaign funds and to get elected and stay in office, not for the benefit of our liberty. None of this will change, whether campaign financing is public or private. Personally, I'd rather have the political financing as private, because each person should use their own funds to push for whomever they prefer; I don't want to pay for a candidate's run for office that I find offensive, and that's what tax-funded campaign financing would entail.
I agree with eliminating laws that make it harder for different parties to get on the ballot.
Fascism: attacked weakness of democracy, corruption of capitalism; promised vigorous foreign and military programs; undertook state control of economy to reduce social friction. ( http://occawlonline.pearsoned.com/bookbind/pubbooks/stearns_awl/medialib/glossary/gloss_F.html )
I read the US Gov't made it known they would prosecute anyone who tried to export flavored cigarettes to the USA, though I can't find a cite for it.
Point is, people aren't being forced to smoke cigarettes, they choose to do so, and our government should not be in the business of banning products that people choose to use. As long as people know the risks of using a product, making sure companies disclose all the risks should be the extent of gov't regulation allowed. If you want to smoke, here are the risks, you make the choice. Want to eat raw milk products, here are the risks, you make the choice. Banning because it's bad for you? Ridiculous overreach of our politicians.