Obama Denies that Individual Mandate is a Tax Increase

Appearing on ABC’s “This Week,” Mr. Obama was asked by host George Stephanopoulos about the “individual mandate.” Under Max Baucus’s Senate bill that Mr. Obama supports, everyone would be required to buy health insurance or else pay a penalty as high as $3,800 a year. Mr. Stephanopoulos posed the obvious question about this kind of coercion when “the government is forcing people to spend money, fining you if you don’t [buy insurance]. . . . How is that not a tax?”

“Well, hold on a second, George,” Mr. Obama replied. “Here’s what’s happening. You and I are both paying $900, on average—our families—in higher premiums because of uncompensated care. Now what I’ve said is that if you can’t afford health insurance, you certainly shouldn’t be punished for that. That’s just piling on. If, on the other hand, we’re giving tax credits, we’ve set up an exchange, you are now part of a big pool, we’ve driven down the costs, we’ve done everything we can and you actually can afford health insurance, but you’ve just decided, you know what, I want to take my chances. And then you get hit by a bus and you and I have to pay for the emergency room care, that’s . . .”

“That may be,” Mr. Stephanopoulos responded, “but it’s still a tax increase.” (In fact, uncompensated care accounts for about only 2.2% of national health spending today, but that’s another subject.)

Mr. Obama: “No. That’s not true, George. The—for us to say that you’ve got to take a responsibility to get health insurance is absolutely not a tax increase. What it’s saying is, is that we’re not going to have other people carrying your burdens for you anymore . . .” In other words, like parents talking to their children, this levy—don’t call it a tax—is for your own good.

Mr. Stephanopoulos tried again: “But it may be fair, it may be good public policy—”

Mr. Obama: “No, but—but, George, you—you can’t just make up that language and decide that that’s called a tax increase.”

“I don’t think I’m making it up,” Mr. Stephanopoulos said. He then had the temerity to challenge the Philologist in Chief, with an assist from Merriam-Webster. He cited that dictionary’s definition of “tax”—”a charge, usually of money, imposed by authority on persons or property for public purposes.”

Mr. Obama: “George, the fact that you looked up Merriam’s Dictionary, the definition of tax increase, indicates to me that you’re stretching a little bit right now. . . .”

Mr. Stephanopoulos: “I wanted to check for myself. But your critics say it is a tax increase.”

Mr. Obama: “My critics say everything is a tax increase. My critics say that I’m taking over every sector of the economy. You know that. Look, we can have a legitimate debate about whether or not we’re going to have an individual mandate or not, but . . .”

Mr. Stephanopoulos: “But you reject that it’s a tax increase?”

Mr. Obama: “I absolutely reject that notion.”

via Obama Denies that Individual Mandate is a Tax Increase – WSJ.com.

Our President has no scruples; he just flat-out lies about what he’s doing, and no one will do anything about it.

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Obama and PolitiFact Lied

As for Joe Wilson saying “you lie”, PolitiFact calls Wilson’s statement false, but seems to leave plenty of room for his statement being true. PolitiFact concludes with:

We don’t find the public option argument enough to make the case that Obama “lied.” We rate Wilson’s statement False.

But earlier in the analysis they say:

Under health care reform, illegal immigrants would be able to buy private insurance or the public option.

PolitiFact says Obama isn’t lying because Illegals can buy insurance now, so there’s no difference between Obama’s public option and health insurance now. But that still means that Illegals can buy insurance under Obama’s public option. WTF?

So how they come up with Wilson being wrong when they say themselves that illegal immigrants would be able to buy insurance under the public insurance option is mystifying to me. Clearly, PolitiFact is lying, too.

PolitiFact | Joe Wilson of South Carolina said Obama lied, but he didn’t.

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Socialism By Force, For Your Own Good

Socialism By Force, For Your Own Good · Snapped Shot.

Mmmm, tasty. Remember, state mandates to pay a private company for a service you may or may not use are all for your own good, dear, so don’t complain. What’s that, you don’t want insurance? FEEL OUR SQUIRRELY WRATH, PUNY HUMAN!

Oklahomans without health insurance could lose their driver’s licenses, state income tax deductions or even college football season tickets under a surprising approach proposed by state Insurance Commissioner Kim Holland.

Such penalties might help Oklahoma improve its dismal ranking in the number of residents who have no health insurance, Holland said this week during her agency’s Summit on the High Cost of Health Insurance.

“None of those are very pleasant, but there needs to be a consequence,” Holland said Thursday.

Squirrely Wrath!

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Mug’s Game

Poll Shows Baucus Individual Mandate To Buy Health Insurance Unpopular

Consumer Watchdog countered Senator Max Baucus’ (D-MT) contention that the mandatory purchase of health insurance was popular with Americans by pointing to a poll showing that voters overwhelmingly reject requiring proof of private health insurance when they are told they might have to pay some of the premium costs.

I’ll bet on one of the following reasons being behind Baucus’s claim that most Americans support being forced to buy insurance:

- He was lying
- The poll was only of older people
- The poll didn’t mention that the consumer might have to pay for part of the cost

Buying health insurance is a poor bet for a young, healthy, childless person. Especially if his employer isn’t picking up a good chunk of the cost “for free”, his premiums are subsidizing the older and sicker. But of course that’s why Hillary Bitch Clinton wanted to force them into the system, and Massholeachusetts pulled it off.

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